[GenABEL-dev] Using advertisements (and other ways) to sponsor GenABEL

Thu Oct 15 13:37:29 CEST 2015

Hi Lennart,

Looks like the paypal works good for donation. Look at the donation 
button which I have just created on my CV web site 
(https://sites.google.com/site/maksimstruchalin/). The button in the 
bottom.

Fee for such transactions is 3.4% + some cents 
(https://www.paypal.com/nz/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-fees-outside).

I donated $1 to myself and it worked as promised.

You will might want to create a buisness account (I used "premier" in 
this case).

Maksim

On 15/10/2015 22:34, Maksim Struchalin wrote:
> Hi Lennart,
>
> I studied this issue a couple of years ago and my undertanding was at 
> that time that there are many companies which provide such service 
> because there are millions small internet shops in web. They make 
> profit from taking about 5% from each transcation (not much). This 
> might be usfull: 
> https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/get-started/donate-button . Also, 
> you might adviertise this work on one of many websites where 
> freelancers search their jobs and some of them might do it for say 
> $50-$100-$200 (I can do it for $1000 :-) ).
>
> p.s. As alterntive, you can make it very simple: Advertises my bank 
> account number on genabel.org as account number for all donations and 
> I will take care of the rest :-).
>
> good luck,
> Maksim
>
>
>
> On 15/10/2015 21:10, L.C. Karssen wrote:
>> Hi Maksim, Yurii,
>>
>> Thanks for your input in the discussion.
>>
>> On 15-10-15 09:44, Yurii Aulchenko wrote:
>>> I agree with Maksim - this is very handy how wikipedia does that. In case people are willing to donate, it should be very simple to do - otherwise people will not do this (my personal experience :))
>>>
>> Sounds like a good option to me too, I hadn't thought of that.
>> My question with this option is how payments are processed. Is there a
>> company that provides this kind of button+service? And what do they charge?
>> For Google and Gratipay I already found those details.
>>
>> The nice thing about Gratipay and BountySource.com is that you can more
>> directly show/inform the audience what the money will be used for. With
>> a donate button and Google Ads that is not so easy.
>>
>>
>> Lennart.
>>
>>> Yurii
>>>
>>>> On 15 Oct 2015, at 00:57, Maksim Struchalin<m.v.struchalin at mail.ru>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lennart & Yurii,
>>>>
>>>> The first thing I would do is to introduce a "donation button" inwww.genabel.org  like on wikipedia. So user can type his/her credit card info and donate some money. I donated some money to wikipedia recently and could do it very quickly through their donation button.
>>>>
>>>> Maksim
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my phone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 15 ???. 2015 ?., at 1:20, "L.C. Karssen"<l.c.karssen at polyomica.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear list,
>>>>>
>>>>> As you may have noticed over the past year(s) the contributions to the
>>>>> GenABEL project by Yurii and myself have steadily declined. The main
>>>>> reason for this is simple: lack of funding. We have started our own
>>>>> consulting business and although we have tried to include GenABEL into
>>>>> grant applications wherever we could, we haven't been able to secure any
>>>>> funds for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the other side of the balance we do have some fixed costs related to
>>>>> the hosting of the genabel.org website (and some flexible costs related
>>>>> to its maintenance).
>>>>>
>>>>> We therefore propose the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Given thatwww.genabel.org  does receive a reasonable number of
>>>>> visitors per month we would like to add Google Ads to the pages. This
>>>>> may not generate a lot of revenue but anything many small bits can help
>>>>> (see e.g. [1]).
>>>>> Of course this will lead to a change in layout of the site, but we will
>>>>> try to make this a minimally disruptive as possible so as not to harm
>>>>> the user experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course we understand that this can/should lead to a discussion about
>>>>> who owns/takes care of the incoming funds. We could set up a foundation
>>>>> under Dutch law to take care of that. However, that would require around
>>>>> EUR3500 per year in accounting/reporting costs, etc. which is much more
>>>>> than we can invest (and more than we expect to earn from the ads).
>>>>> Therefore we would like to propose the following: Being the main sponsor
>>>>> of the Project PolyOmica will manage the funds (any payment will go to
>>>>> our bank account), and as part of our open policy we will provide a
>>>>> regular (quarterly? annual?) report to the community of the income
>>>>> generated and how it was spent (see e.g [2]). Any money that remains
>>>>> after covering these basic costs can be used to fund further development
>>>>> of the GenABEL Suite packages (maybe via one of the options listed below).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We also thought of some alternative ways of generating some income:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Add a channel on bountysource.com [3]
>>>>> 3) Make the GenABEL Project a Team on Gratipay (formerly GitTip) [1,2,4,5]
>>>>> 4) Joinhttp://flattr.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have experience with any of these micropayment/crowdfunding
>>>>> providers?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let us know what you think of these ideas. We would really love
>>>>> to make the Project more vibrant and sustainable than it currently is!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lennart & Yurii.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> http://blogs.perl.org/users/peter_rabbitson/2014/02/i-bought-a-weekly-round-for-my-friends.html
>>>>> [2]http://inside.gratipay.com/appendices/finances
>>>>> [3]https://salt.bountysource.com
>>>>> [4]https://gratipay.com/
>>>>> [5]https://medium.com/gratipay-blog/gratipay-2-0-2453d3c53077
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
>>>>> Lennart C. Karssen
>>>>> PolyOmica
>>>>> Groningen
>>>>> The Netherlands
>>>>>
>>>>> l.c.karssen at polyomica.com
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>>>>> -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
>>>>>
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