[GenABEL-dev] Using advertisements (and other ways) to sponsor GenABEL

Thu Oct 15 11:34:50 CEST 2015

Hi Lennart,

I studied this issue a couple of years ago and my undertanding was at 
that time that there are many companies which provide such service 
because there are millions small internet shops in web. They make profit 
from taking about 5% from each transcation (not much). This might be 
usfull: https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/get-started/donate-button . 
Also, you might adviertise this work on one of many websites where 
freelancers search their jobs and some of them might do it for say 
$50-$100-$200 (I can do it for $1000 :-) ).

p.s. As alterntive, you can make it very simple: Advertises my bank 
account number on genabel.org as account number for all donations and I 
will take care of the rest :-).

good luck,
Maksim

On 15/10/2015 21:10, L.C. Karssen wrote:
> Hi Maksim, Yurii,
>
> Thanks for your input in the discussion.
>
> On 15-10-15 09:44, Yurii Aulchenko wrote:
>> I agree with Maksim - this is very handy how wikipedia does that. In case people are willing to donate, it should be very simple to do - otherwise people will not do this (my personal experience :))
>>
> Sounds like a good option to me too, I hadn't thought of that.
> My question with this option is how payments are processed. Is there a
> company that provides this kind of button+service? And what do they charge?
> For Google and Gratipay I already found those details.
>
> The nice thing about Gratipay and BountySource.com is that you can more
> directly show/inform the audience what the money will be used for. With
> a donate button and Google Ads that is not so easy.
>
>
> Lennart.
>
>> Yurii
>>
>>> On 15 Oct 2015, at 00:57, Maksim Struchalin <m.v.struchalin at mail.ru> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Lennart & Yurii,
>>>
>>> The first thing I would do is to introduce a "donation button" in www.genabel.org like on wikipedia. So user can type his/her credit card info and donate some money. I donated some money to wikipedia recently and could do it very quickly through their donation button.
>>>
>>> Maksim
>>>
>>> Sent from my phone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 15 ???. 2015 ?., at 1:20, "L.C. Karssen" <l.c.karssen at polyomica.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear list,
>>>>
>>>> As you may have noticed over the past year(s) the contributions to the
>>>> GenABEL project by Yurii and myself have steadily declined. The main
>>>> reason for this is simple: lack of funding. We have started our own
>>>> consulting business and although we have tried to include GenABEL into
>>>> grant applications wherever we could, we haven't been able to secure any
>>>> funds for this.
>>>>
>>>> On the other side of the balance we do have some fixed costs related to
>>>> the hosting of the genabel.org website (and some flexible costs related
>>>> to its maintenance).
>>>>
>>>> We therefore propose the following:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Given that www.genabel.org does receive a reasonable number of
>>>> visitors per month we would like to add Google Ads to the pages. This
>>>> may not generate a lot of revenue but anything many small bits can help
>>>> (see e.g. [1]).
>>>> Of course this will lead to a change in layout of the site, but we will
>>>> try to make this a minimally disruptive as possible so as not to harm
>>>> the user experience.
>>>>
>>>> Of course we understand that this can/should lead to a discussion about
>>>> who owns/takes care of the incoming funds. We could set up a foundation
>>>> under Dutch law to take care of that. However, that would require around
>>>> EUR3500 per year in accounting/reporting costs, etc. which is much more
>>>> than we can invest (and more than we expect to earn from the ads).
>>>> Therefore we would like to propose the following: Being the main sponsor
>>>> of the Project PolyOmica will manage the funds (any payment will go to
>>>> our bank account), and as part of our open policy we will provide a
>>>> regular (quarterly? annual?) report to the community of the income
>>>> generated and how it was spent (see e.g [2]). Any money that remains
>>>> after covering these basic costs can be used to fund further development
>>>> of the GenABEL Suite packages (maybe via one of the options listed below).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We also thought of some alternative ways of generating some income:
>>>>
>>>> 2) Add a channel on bountysource.com [3]
>>>> 3) Make the GenABEL Project a Team on Gratipay (formerly GitTip) [1,2,4,5]
>>>> 4) Join http://flattr.com
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have experience with any of these micropayment/crowdfunding
>>>> providers?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please let us know what you think of these ideas. We would really love
>>>> to make the Project more vibrant and sustainable than it currently is!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lennart & Yurii.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> http://blogs.perl.org/users/peter_rabbitson/2014/02/i-bought-a-weekly-round-for-my-friends.html
>>>> [2] http://inside.gratipay.com/appendices/finances
>>>> [3] https://salt.bountysource.com
>>>> [4] https://gratipay.com/
>>>> [5] https://medium.com/gratipay-blog/gratipay-2-0-2453d3c53077
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Lennart C. Karssen
>>>> PolyOmica
>>>> Groningen
>>>> The Netherlands
>>>>
>>>> l.c.karssen at polyomica.com
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