[Rsiena-help] clarification on changelog for RSienaTest rev.93

Ruth M. Ripley ruth at stats.ox.ac.uk
Tue Jun 8 13:03:31 CEST 2010


Dear Marco,

No, I am fairly sure it is ignored. But I will check it out and see if it 
is straightforward to fix, I think it should be, as this part should be 
similar to one-mode processing.

Regards,

Ruth

On Tue, 8 Jun 2010, marco tonellato wrote:

> Dear Ruth and Tom,
>
> thanks for the clarifications.
>
> By the way, since we don't have missing data but just a composition change
> file, then this is probably why we didn't experience the estimation to be
> particularly slow.
>
> The print01 correctly reported the actors for both modes leaving and joining
> the network at times specified in the composition change. Is this
> information currently used during the estimation?
>
> thanks again,
> regards,
>
> Marco
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Tom Snijders <
> Tom.Snijders at nuffield.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dear Ruth,
>>
>> Thank you for your answer. Given other things, I do not think this should
>> be given high priority. My message was mainly intended to notify Marco (and
>> perhaps others) that the functionality of bipartite networks in RSiena is
>> still incomplete, and that anybody using it should be aware that this just
>> is something that we are still working on.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> ============================================
>> Tom A.B. Snijders
>> Professor of Statistics in the Social Sciences
>> Department of Politics and Department of Statistics
>> Nuffield College
>> University of Oxford
>> tel. +44-01865-278599
>> http://stat.gamma.rug.nl/snijders/
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ruth M. Ripley [mailto:ruth at stats.ox.ac.uk]
>>> Sent: 08 June 2010 11:32
>>> To: Tom Snijders
>>> Cc: 'marco tonellato'; rsiena-help at lists.r-forge.r-project.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Rsiena-help] clarification on changelog for RSienaTest
>>> rev.93
>>>
>>> Dear Tom,
>>>
>>> No, the actors in the ministeps do not yet have an option to leave things
>>> unchanged. Implementation of this is non trivial, compared to the other
>>> problems (C++ not R!), so I cannot promise it will be done very soon.
>>>
>>> But I will see what I can do.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010, Tom Snijders wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Marco,
>>>>
>>>> Note that the bipartite network version of RSiena still is a beta
>>>> version, and it is not yet totally clear to me that it does what it
>>>> should do eventually. In particular, I am not sure that in the
>>>> ministeps, the option to leave things unchanged is implemented yet.
>>>> Ruth, perhaps you could also comment on whether this option is
>>>> implemented?
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> ============================================
>>>> Tom A.B. Snijders
>>>> Professor of Statistics in the Social Sciences
>>>> Department of Politics and Department of Statistics
>>>> Nuffield College
>>>> University of Oxford
>>>> tel. +44-01865-278599
>>>> http://stat.gamma.rug.nl/snijders/
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: rsiena-help-bounces at lists.r-forge.r-project.org [mailto:rsiena-
>>> help-bounces at lists.r-forge.r-project.org] On Behalf Of marco tonellato
>>>> Sent: 08 June 2010 11:14
>>>> To: rsiena-help at lists.r-forge.r-project.org
>>>> Subject: [Rsiena-help] clarification on changelog for RSienaTest rev.93
>>>>
>>>> Dear Ruth,
>>>>
>>>> I just read the changelog for RSienaTest rev.93 (04.06.2010), and I saw
>>> those messages:
>>>> "Using composition change with bipartite networks will give an error
>>> message - until this is corrected". And "Bug fix to treatment of missing
>>> data in sparse format bipartite networks".
>>>>
>>>> Since I'm actually using sparse bipartite networks with composition
>>> change (RSiena rev.92) I was wondering whether the problem was there
>>> before and you fixed it or whether the problem wasn't there before and
>> you
>>> signaled it.
>>>> Can you please elaborate on that?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. Regards,
>>>> Marco
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>


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