[FLR-list] ssb constraint with FLash

Iago MOSQUEIRA (JRC) iago.mosqueira at jrc.ec.europa.eu
Mon Oct 27 09:28:46 CET 2014


Hi,

I am trying to replicate the issue, using our dear ple4, but I failed to
do so. If I set a min value for ssb in 2010, which is higher than what
f=0.8 in 2009 would give me, I get as expected a lower F and the right
ssb, try code below.

Can you send me your FLStock object?

Cheers,


Iago


library(FLash)
library(FLAssess)

data(ple4)

ple4 <- stf(ple4,3)

maxF <-fwdControl(data.frame(year=2009,val=0.8,quantity="f")) #  an
example with high F that decreases biomass a lot

ple4 <-
fwd(ple4,ctrl=maxF,sr=list(model="mean",params=FLPar(1)),sr.residuals=FLQuant(3500000,dimnames=list(year=2009:2011)))

fbar(ple4)[,"2009"]

maxF <-fwdControl(data.frame(year=2009,val=c(0.8,NA),min=c(NA,350000),
quantity=c("f","ssb")))

ple4 <-
fwd(ple4,ctrl=maxF,sr=list(model="mean",params=FLPar(1)),sr.residuals=FLQuant(3500000,dimnames=list(year=2009:2011)))

fbar(ple4)[,"2009"]
ssb(ple4)[,"2009"]
ssb(ple4)[,"2010"]


On 25/10/14 21:35, Clara Ulrich wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> We are just back from ICES MIXFISH, where we once again made much use of FLash power... (still on R 2.15.3 windows 32 bits, we had some troubles at the advice meeting in May with using the new FLFleet package for R3.1, we haven't tried again - Flash 2.5.0)
> 
> This time we wanted to some SSB-based HCR - Typically, we have a target F with some SSB minimum constraints - for example the biomass must stay above Bpa, or if the biomass is below Bpa, the target is reduced such as SSB should be at least increasing...
> 
> But I kept having troubles making it to work - I had tried this some years ago and it worked OK as far as I remember, but last week I did not manage to get around the problem. 
> 
> For example (with target F for 2014, and SSB constraint applying on SSB at 1st January 2015 at the end of the fwd year)
> 
> maxF <-fwdControl(data.frame(year=2014,val=0.8,quantity="f")) #  an example with high F that decreases biomass a lot
> Proj <- fwd(MyObj,ctrl=maxF,sr=list(model="mean",params=FLPar(1)),sr.residuals=FLQuant(3500000,dimnames=list(year=2014:2015)))
> 
> This works :
> fbar(Proj)[,"2014"]
> 	An object of class "FLQuant"
> 	iters:  10 
> 	, , unit = unique, season = all, area = unique
> 	     year
> 	age   2014  
> 	  all 0.8(0)	
> 	units:  f
> 
> ssb(Proj)[,ac(2014:2015)]
> 	An object of class "FLQuant"
> 	iters:  10 
> 	, , unit = unique, season = all, area = unique
> 	     year
> 	age   2014      2015     
> 	all 172983(0)  77323(0)
> 	units:  NA
> 
> but this does not work (here an example where the SSB constraint should be activated)  
> 
> maxF <-fwdControl(data.frame(year=2014,val=c(0.8,NA),min=c(NA,150000), quantity=c("f","ssb")))
> Proj <- fwd(MyObj,ctrl=maxF,sr=list(model="mean",params=FLPar(1)),sr.residuals=FLQuant(3500000,dimnames=list(year=2014:2015)))
> 
> fbar(Proj)[,"2014"]
> 	An object of class "FLQuant"
> 	iters:  10 
> 	, , unit = unique, season = all, area = unique
> 	     year
> 	age   2014  
> 	  all 0.016914(0)	
> 	units:  f
> 
> ssb(Proj)[,ac(2014:2015)]
> 	An object of class "FLQuant"
> 	iters:  10 
> 	, , unit = unique, season = all, area = unique
> 	     year
> 	age   2014      2015     
> 	all 172983(0) 172983(0)
> 	units:  NA
> 
> 
> and this doesn't work either when the SSB is not constraining (e.g. SSB limit so low that it is always achieved). Only if I specify ssb as a value inn fwdControl does it compute correctly, but that is not the idea, it should be a minimum
> 
> 
> I have tried several ways around this but cannot find out... Any idea of what is getting wrong? 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Cheers
> Clara
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