[FLR-list] size

Ernesto ernesto.jardim at jrc.ec.europa.eu
Wed May 22 14:41:07 CEST 2013


Hi,

Yes, that is a problem that we need to sort out. I'm considering using 
midpoints. It has the advantage of being easy to coerce into numeric. In 
most cases that's what one needs for computations. Using boundaries will 
require other(s) operation(s) to get midpoints.

Best

EJ

On 05/22/2013 02:23 PM, Laurie Kell wrote:
> There is an issue, boring but may be important to agree on now, i.e. 
> labeling of length bins.
>
> What does a length bin mean, i.e. if the "quant" dim represents 
> length? and the values are 5, 10, ...?
>
> In the mixdist package these are the righthand boundaries i.e. they 
> represent (0,5] and (5,10]. But if they are the lefthand boundaries 
> then they represent (5,10] and (10,INF]. Or they could be midpoints. 
> One option would be to explicitly label the bins with the boundaries 
> and then have methods for going backwards and forwards between 
> parametric and non-parametric methods. Or to have an attribute that 
> tracks the properties.
>
> Otherwise I can see a lot of time being wasted in stock assessments. 
> well more than normal.
> Laurie
>
>
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Ernesto 
> <ernesto.jardim at jrc.ec.europa.eu 
> <mailto:ernesto.jardim at jrc.ec.europa.eu>> wrote:
>
>     On 05/22/2013 12:02 PM, Ernesto wrote:
>
>         On 05/22/2013 11:34 AM, Sarah Kraak wrote:
>
>             Hi FLR-guys,
>
>             As you know I am not an active FLR user, but last year I
>             showed some interest in whether you have size-based stuff
>             in FLR (see attached email). In the meanwhile Coilin Minto
>             and myself have been working on something (also attached -
>             note this is a draft of the idea; at the moment we are
>             working on the code to get the final graphs out) which we
>             are coding in R but which could/should eventually been
>             done in FLR. Perhaps you are interested.
>
>             Cheers,
>             Sarah
>
>
>         Hi,
>
>         Following Laurie's suggestion I've started a git repository
>         for length
>         methods in FLRhttps://github.com/ejardim/FLMethLen
>         <http://github.com/ejardim/FLMethLen>
>
>         Maybe our first task should be o write down what we're doing
>         with length
>         data. Laurie's working on ALKs, so I guess you're interested in
>         converting length frequencies to ages for stock assessment !?
>         We (a4a)
>         are working on OMs and how to generate them from length based
>         data so
>         that uncertainty on the growth model can be included in the
>         MSE. Sarah
>         and Colin Minto are working on selectivity. What else ?
>
>         Best
>
>         EJ
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I've updated the readme to reflect the latest messages.
>
>
>     EJ
>
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