[datatable-help] Random segfaults

Chris Neff caneff at gmail.com
Thu Dec 15 14:43:44 CET 2011


Latest SVN version, no alloccol set, still crashing a lot.  I don't
use [<- or $<-, the only times I modify a data.table are with :=  or
by doing DT=merge(DT,blah).

Any more info I can provide?

On 15 December 2011 08:32, Matthew Dowle <mdowle at mdowle.plus.com> wrote:
> Great fingers and toes crossed. If you could unset alloccol option just to
> be sure please, that would be great. You're our best hope of confirming
> it's fixed since it was biting you several times an hour. If you use [<-
> or $<- syntax then R will copy via *tmp* and at that point the *tmp*
> data.table is similar to a data.table loaded from disk in that it isn't
> over-allocated anymore, I realised. Also a copy() will lose
> over-allocation until the next column addition.  That 'should' all be fine
> now in both <=2.13.2 and >=2.14.0, although the bug was something simpler.
>
> 1.7.7 is on CRAN now and been built for windows so if CRAN check results
> tick over from "ERROR" to "OK" later today (for both windows and mac
> old-rel), and, you're ok too, then it's fixed.
>
>
>> I've updated to the latest SVN version, and I'll be sure to let you
>> know if it still crashes (however I do have the alloccol option set to
>> 1000, so I shouldn't be bumping into reallocation very often). Thanks
>> for finding the bug so fast!
>>
>> On 14 December 2011 19:56, Matthew Dowle <mdowle at mdowle.plus.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hm. Sounds like it could be a different problem then if it was in R
>>> 2.14. There have been quite a few fixes since 1.7.4 so if you can
>>> reproduce with 1.7.7 would be great.  Or, we've sometimes seen that just
>>> after a package upgrade that a clean re-install can often fix things.
>>> Perhaps if the .so was in use by another R process or a zombie, or
>>> something. R seems to report data.table v1.7.4 (say) but it hasn't fully
>>> installed it properly and is still (perhaps partially) at 1.7.3. So quit
>>> all R (reboot to clear zombies too perhaps) and try reinstalling using R
>>> CMD INSTALL. Next time it happens I mean. Can also run test.data.table()
>>> to check the install.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 17:40 +0000, Timothée Carayol wrote:
>>>> Hi --
>>>>
>>>> I have been having many unreproducible bugs with R 2.14, data.table
>>>> 1.7.4 and ubuntu 64 bits about 10 days ago. Data was getting
>>>> corrupted, and then R crashed. I had to go back to data.frame for the
>>>> bits of code affected. I was doing a lot of rather unsafe
>>>> manipulations with row names, rbind and cbinds.
>>>> I didn't file a report, nor signal it, as it was occurring seemingly
>>>> at random, and I was doing operations which aren't really what
>>>> data.table was made for (tons of little manipulations on small data);
>>>> still I guess I should now signal that 2.14 didn't fix everything for
>>>> me. I do not know whether bugs subsist on post-1.7.4 versions.
>>>>
>>>> t
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Matthew Dowle <mdowle at mdowle.plus.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Maybe, worth a try. Are you loading any data.table objects from disk?
>>>> >
>>>> >> 64 bit 2.12.1 linux.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Is there an option I can set in my session in order to work around
>>>> the
>>>> >> truelength issue? I don't care if I lose some of the over-allocation
>>>> >> niceties if it stops things from crashing. Looking at the truelength
>>>> >> help, would just doing:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> options(datatable.alloc=quote(1000))
>>>> >>
>>>> >> stop this? I never have more than about 50 columns at a time.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 14 December 2011 11:43, Matthew Dowle <mdowle at mdowle.plus.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> You're R < 2.14.0, right?  I'm really struggling in R < 2.14.0 to
>>>> make
>>>> >>> over-allocation work because R only started to initialize
>>>> truelength to
>>>> >>> 0
>>>> >>> in R 2.14.0+. Before that it's unitialized (random). Trouble is my
>>>> >>> attempts in R < 2.14.0 to work around that work fine for me in
>>>> linux
>>>> >>> 32bit
>>>> >>> when I test in R 2.13.2, and I even test in 2.12.0 too. I test on
>>>> 64bit
>>>> >>> too but just 2.14.0.  CRAN is also showing errors on 2.13.2
>>>> (old-rel)
>>>> >>> for
>>>> >>> both mac and windows.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> So, this is a pre-2.14.0 (only) problem that I'll continue to try
>>>> and
>>>> >>> fix.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Are you 64bit pre-2.14.0? Which OS?  If you are 64bit linux then it
>>>> adds
>>>> >>> weight to me installing pre-2.14.0 on my 64bit instance in an
>>>> effort to
>>>> >>> reproduce.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> This will be a crappy help request because I can't seem to
>>>> reproduce
>>>> >>>> it, but the past few days I've been getting a lot of segfaults.
>>>>  The
>>>> >>>> only common thing between every crash is that it happens when I do
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> DT[, z := x]
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> where z was not a column that existed in DT before, and x is
>>>> either an
>>>> >>>> existing column of DT or a separate variable, doesn't matter.
>>>>  Beyond
>>>> >>>> that I can't reproduce a set of steps that gets R to crash.  This
>>>> is
>>>> >>>> with the latest SVN version.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Is there more information I can provide to help track this down?
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