[Sorvi-admin] Hackdays (can we have another hack workshop on Tuesday please?)

Thu Jul 26 14:55:53 CEST 2012

Moi Leo,

Mielestäni tämä Open Science -porukan kanssa tiimiytyminen kuulostaa tosi
hyvältä suunnitelmalta. Lähden tästä itse lomalle pariksi viikoksi, joten
muu porukka (info at okfestival.org) voi jatkaa tämän mahdollistamista. Olisi
hyvä, jos pystyt itse edistämään tätä yhteistyötä - jos sitten sitä varten
tarvitaan erikseen jotain tilavarauksia, niin siinä vaiheessa pitää kysyä
info at okfestival.org osoitteesta ja tai suoraan Juhalta, joka palaa töihin
1.8 (juha.huuskonen at finnish-institute.org.uk).

Olen itse asiassa juuri ehdottanut, että Open Science porukalle
annettaisiin lisää HACK -tilaa keskiviikolle ja/tai torstaille, eli tätä
voisi käyttää tähän?

PMO-aiheeseen liittyen on nyt vielä kovasti ehdotuksia ilmassa; tavoitteena
on järjestää jotain siihen liittyvää toki, mutta en itsekään ole oikein
selvillä missä mennään. Pyrin setvimään vielä asiaa, mutta esim. Jogi on
myös ilmeisesti tietoinen eri ehdotuksista ja voinee pitää sinutkin
informoituna.

Ja niin, mikäänhän ei estä pitämästä esitelmiä myös hackathonin aikana.
Lisäksi ligthning talks -puolella tulee varmasti olemaan mahdollisuuksia
esitellä omia juttujaan lyhyesti!

Terveisin, Jussi

On 24 July 2012 13:43, Leo Lahti <leo.lahti at iki.fi> wrote:

> Terve, ja kiitos nopeasta vastauksesta. Miten olisi, jos yrittäisimme
> tiimiytyä esim. Open Science streamin kanssa. Louhos on keskittynyt
> kehittämään tutkimusorientoituneita ohjelmakirjastoja avoimelle datalle ja
> tuo esim. tuokin streami olisi sen vuoksi lähellä meidän hommia. Ja sain
> sieltä jo alustavasti vihreää valoa tällaiselle ehdotukselle.
>
> Ehdotimme alun perin teemaksi parlamentaarista monitorointia, kun olemme
> nyt datavaalit-tempauksen tiimoilta muutenkin työstämässä sitäkin aihetta.
> Mitään erityistä syytä/tarvetta rajoittua tähän ei kuitenkaan ole, jos
> saadaan toimivampi kokonaisuus aikaan yhdistämällä voimat jonkun toisen
> eventin kanssa. Mutta jos tähän aiheeseen liittyviä eventtejä on tulossa,
> jonne tällainen hackathon sopisi niin voitaisiin harkita sitäkin.
>
> Mieluiten järkkäisimme nimenomaan muutaman tunnin koodausjamit/hackathonin
> jonka myötä voisi tuoda yhteen samanlaisten aiheiden parissa toimivia
> ihmisiä samalla kun kehitetään projekteja eteen päin. Kylkeen voisi sitten
> kehitellä introa ja/tai lyhyitä projektiesittelyitä ym. vähän
> osallistujistakin ja streamin muista eventeistä riippuen, päällekkäisyyksiä
> ainakin on hyvä välttää.
>
> Toki pidämme mieluusti lisäksi myös lightning-puheen hankkeeseemme
> liittyen jos sellaiselle löytyy ohjelmassa tilaa, mutta hyvä jos saisi
> ainakin jomman kumman järkättyä (=hackathon taikka esitelmä).
>
> Miltä tämän suuntainen kuulostaisi?
>
> Leo
>
> Tähän hackathoniin ja hackathoneihin liittyen, mikä olisi mielestäsi
>> optimaalisin ratkaisu? Voin varata sinulle HACK workshop -tilan (eli
>> workshop/hackathon -tila noin 20 hengelle) tiistaille, jossa voisit vetää
>> haluamasi tyylisen session - joko lyhyen tai vaikka koko päivän. Koska
>> ohjelmaa on kuitenkin jo niin paljon, suosittelisin tiimiytymistä jonkun
>> topic streamin kanssa. Keiden kanssa sinulla on ollut nyt puhetta
>> yhteistyöstä ja mikä olisi sinun mielestäsi paras ratkaisu? Alkuperäisessä
>> ehdotuksessa oli keskiössä parliamentary monitoring - ja meille Core
>> Organising Teamissakin on ollut epäselvää, mikä suhtautuminen tähän
>> aiheeseen on, sillä osa on ollut sitä mieltä että Pariisissa pidettävän
>> tapahtuman vuoksi sitä ei ole tarvetta korostaa. Ja koska luonteeltaan se
>> sopii niin monen topic streamin alle, mielipiteitä on ollut monia.
>>
>> Terveisin, Jussi
>>
>> --
>> Jussi Nissilä
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> On 23 July 2012 12:26, Leo Lahti <leo.lahti at iki.fi> wrote:
>>
>>> Terve -
>>>
>>> me ollaan tehty Louhos-tiimin kanssa yksi hackathon- ja yksi
>>> esitelmäehdotus OKFestille, mutta emme ole vieläkään saaneet mitään
>>> tiedonantoa  siitä onko ehdotukset menossa läpi vai ei, tai voitaisiinko
>>> niitä pyrkiä yhdistämään muiden vastaavien eventtien kanssa. Tämä olisi
>>> relevanttia tietoa jotta voisimme esim. harkita lyöttäytymistä yhteen alla
>>> olevan ketjun kanssa jos omat ehdotuksemme eivät ole menossa läpi. Näillä
>>> alkaa kuitenkin olla kiire, kun tapahtumaan on enää muutama viikko, syksyn
>>> aikataulut alkaa täyttyä, ja suunnittelemaamme eventtiinkin pitäisi
>>> valmistautua jos sellaista hyväksytään ohjelmaan. Myös siitä pitäisi toivon
>>> mukaan tulla ilmoitus, jos ehdotuksia ei hyväksytä ohjelmaan.
>>>
>>> Olisimme mielellämme mukana tekemässä OKFestiä, mutta järjestelyihin
>>> liittyvää tiedotusta on ollut hankala seurata core-tiimin ulkopuolelta,
>>> enkä ihan tarkkaan tiedä mistä osoitteesta esim. meidän submissioitten
>>> kohtaloa pitäisi kysellä kun niitä saatetaan ymmärtääkseni kierrättää eri
>>> streameissa. Ei tämä ylitsepääsemätön ongelma ole ollut ja tavallaan pidän
>>> tästä itseorganisoituvuudesta, mutta järjestelyjä voisi yrittää tältä osin
>>> jotenkin kohentaa ensi vuonna jottei vapaaehtoispotentiaalia valu hukkaan.
>>>
>>> Kiitos järjestelyistä joka tapauksessa, ja nähdään OKFestissä.
>>>
>>> Leo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jussi Nissilä <
>>> jussi.nissila at finnish-institute.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The MAKE space is actually on the other side of the Aalto School of
>>>> Arts building complex (HACK and INSPIRE are more closely located). It will
>>>> therefore take 5mins at least to get from MAKE to HACK, so it's not ideal
>>>> to have one session at MAKE and then have another session at HACK. It is
>>>> possible, of course, but not ideal.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards, Jussi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23 July 2012 11:09, Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds good to me!
>>>>>
>>>>> I imagine we'll have about 15 people, plus around 15 for a Wikimedia
>>>>> edit-a-thon.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Jussi: How far is the space currently reserved for the open science
>>>>> hack away from the MAKE space? Theoretically, we could keep both if they
>>>>> were nearby and breakout to the other venue if needed...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Sam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Jenny Molloy <jcmcoppice12 at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sam and Jussi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We were capping numbers for the science hackers at 25 and weren't
>>>>>> expecting to reach nearly that number so from the sounds of it the MAKE
>>>>>> space would be fine if you're not expecting loads of people for the other
>>>>>> streams. If you're agreed, hack workshop 1 which we currently have could be
>>>>>> freed up for something else on the Tuesday, or if its not in demand we
>>>>>> could keep it for overflow/breakouts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Jussi Nissilä <
>>>>>> jussi.nissila at finnish-institute.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday the MAKE space is reserved for you. The fablab won't be
>>>>>>> available, but the MAKE auditorium and two meeting rooms will be. The
>>>>>>> auditorium can take 50 people for a lecture and approx 40 people in a
>>>>>>> workshop format. Both meeting rooms can additionally take 10 people each.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you be happy with this space or would you like me to see
>>>>>>> what's available in the HACK space?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards, Jussi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20 July 2012 15:17, Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jenny,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Cultural Heritage Hackathon already has space allocated in the
>>>>>>>> MAKE building.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If someone from OKFest core organising committee could confirm the
>>>>>>>> size of the facilities there, perhaps that would be the best place to host
>>>>>>>> the combined hack?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We also want to run a Wikipedia edit-a-thon there, so it will be
>>>>>>>> busy - but very lively!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Sam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Jenny Molloy <
>>>>>>>> jcmcoppice12 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Leo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Again, happy to join forces but we only booked one hack workshop
>>>>>>>>> so space could be tight. I notice hack workshop 3+4 are still to be
>>>>>>>>> allocated so if the core team (cc'd) could let us use another between the
>>>>>>>>> three groups that might be enough space (40 people total).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We would need to think about how to manage things on the day so
>>>>>>>>> people aren't too overwhelmed by the diversity :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Core Team - any chance Open Science/Cultural Heritage/OGD could
>>>>>>>>> get some more hack space?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks very much
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Leo Lahti <leo.lahti at iki.fi>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, we at Louhos (louhos.github.com) have also proposed a
>>>>>>>>>> hackathon on open government data & parliamentary monitoring. We haven't
>>>>>>>>>> received any information on the status of our proposal yet. If sufficient
>>>>>>>>>> space is available, we could possibly join forces with the open science
>>>>>>>>>> hackathon, the background of our project is academic. I should still check
>>>>>>>>>> the outcome of our proposal, but your comments are welcome if our joining
>>>>>>>>>> in would sound feasible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> br. Leo Lahti
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Jenny Molloy <
>>>>>>>>>> jcmcoppice12 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We have Hack workshop 1 booked and will be kicking off with
>>>>>>>>>>> live-streamed lightning talks of tools and ideas followed by hacking on
>>>>>>>>>>> various projects by people in the room and online, so your hack/developers
>>>>>>>>>>> would fold in nicely :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jenny,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it would make a lot of sense to collaborate given the
>>>>>>>>>>>> overlaps with respect to open bibliographic data and open access publishing
>>>>>>>>>>>> which is also relevant to publicly funded humanities research.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> One idea would be to host the hack in the same room and present
>>>>>>>>>>>> the tools and ideas to be worked on to both groups. It would be a great
>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunity for developers who might have been siloed in one domain
>>>>>>>>>>>> previously to work on something new.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What format is the hack you're doing currently taking? Our one
>>>>>>>>>>>> is still fairly nascent but we have about 6 developers who work on semantic
>>>>>>>>>>>> annotation tools and bibliographic reference management software...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jenny Molloy <
>>>>>>>>>>>> jcmcoppice12 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Open Science hackday is Tuesday, School of Open is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday so still happy to join forces - let me know :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  http://science.okfn.org/okfest/open-science-hackday/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My misunderstanding, I thought that your hack was also on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday, so sounds like it would still be best to keep them separate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Jane Park <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> janepark at creativecommons.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are actually having a hack/workshop session for School of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open on Wed afternoon titled, "Open Peer Learning: School of Data and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> School of Open". See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://okfestival.org/topic-stream-open-research-and-education/.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There will be developing of challenges on how to "open" things, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implement "open" tools into daily practices across various fields of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interest. That might fit? But perhaps not in terms of scheduling..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Sam Leon <sam.leon at okfn.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was just wondering are you organising a hackday on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tuesday of OKFest?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, would there like to collaborate and perhaps join
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forces with the Open Cultural Heritage stream?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There seems like a great deal of cross-over between the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kinds of tools to be developed. I imagine tools for working with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bibliographic references being particularly important.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently we have a group of Italian developers who want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who are working on semantic annotation tools for use in teaching and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research such as http://thepund.it and some interest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Finnish cultural heritage institutions wanting to open up their data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specifically for the hackathon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are your thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Leon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://okfn.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @noeL_maS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: samedleon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jane Park
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://creativecommons.org/about/people/#janepark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Leon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://okfn.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @noeL_maS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: samedleon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Leon
>>>>>>>>>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://okfn.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @noeL_maS
>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: samedleon
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Sam Leon
>>>>>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>>>>>> Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>>>>>> http://okfn.org/
>>>>>>>> Twitter: @noeL_maS
>>>>>>>> Skype: samedleon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sam Leon
>>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>>> Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>>> http://okfn.org/
>>>>> Twitter: @noeL_maS
>>>>> Skype: samedleon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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