[Rcpp-devel] Planning to remove the MSVC patch

Davor Cubranic cubranic at stat.ubc.ca
Mon Aug 30 17:42:40 CEST 2010


And this response is clearly a flame with (also) an obvious bias and no 
constructive contribution towards the issue at hand.

Leaving bias, politics, and copyright aside, let's answer question 1: 
why compile Rcpp with VC if you won't be able to load that code into R?

Davor


On August 30, 2010 08:26:39 am Dominick Samperi wrote:
> Play by the rules? Attract the wrong crowd? Lower our standards?
> This is clearly a political post with an obvious bias.
> 
> Such propaganda would probably be frowned upon if it wasn't for the
> fact the the person who posted this message is also the
> mailing list maintainer.
> 
> Free software ideology and R-Forge emerged to facilitate sharing,
> not to be used as tools to build empires.
> 
> As Romain does *all* of the development, creative work, and
> quality control, he should decide where to go with this, not a
> politician.
> 
> Dominick
> 
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd at debian.org> 
wrote:
> > Having discussed this some more with Romain who has no strong views
> > on the matter, I am inclined to the remove the patch that added
> > the ability for
> > 
> > compilation with MSVC as I cannnot come up with answers to these 
questions:
> >  i)   Why would it make sense to have this? Honestly, what is it
> >  good for
> > 
> > to
> > 
> >       compile Rcpp _in isolation_ when one cannot load the
> >       resulting object code in R ?
> >  
> >  ii)  The new files lack proper headers, credits, copyrights.  Our
> >  code
> > 
> > plays
> > 
> >       by the rules in terms of credits, copyrights and licensing. I
> >       see no reason to lower our standards and risk getting into
> >       trouble when as per i) there is no reason or upside anyway.
> >  
> >  iii) I fear it attracts the wrong crowd of Windows users with
> >  little
> >  
> >       knowledge about R, and little C/C++ understanding outside
> >       their cherished IDE.  If people want something for Visual
> >       Whatever, I just learned from Bryan Lewis the other day that
> >       he is working on an Rserve-on-Windows improvement -- see
> >       http://illposed.net/rserve.html and in particular the last
> >       paragraph. That is a better route as it
> > 
> > may
> > 
> >       actually work with dotWhatever etc.
> > 
> > But before I remove the patch I would like to hear from potential
> > users (ideally: others than just the patch submitters) as to why
> > this would be a bad idea.
> > 
> > Thanks, Dirk
> > 
> > --
> > Dirk Eddelbuettel | edd at debian.org | http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com
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