[Rcicr-users] Programming RCP in PsychoPy
Erdem Ozan Meral
erdemozanmeral at gmail.com
Fri May 27 15:56:21 CEST 2016
Hi Dr. Dotsch,
Thank you very, very much for the fast reply! I think that it will really
be helpful. However I could not get the file to open. It says that "the
requested file was not found on the server". I don't know if it's about
something that I am doing wrong. Sorry for the inconvenience.
By the way I am very grateful for the help!
Best
Erdem Ozan Meral
Boğaziçi University
Department of Psychology
Research & Teaching Assistant
*www.psychology.boun.edu.tr <http://www.psychology.boun.edu.tr/>*
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> Hi Nicholas Michalak,
>
> I had the same problem when I was trying to create the experiment in
> PsychoPy. I couldn't actually completely figure out how to do this, but I
> tried something different. I know that this is not what you are intending
> to do, and you probably thought of this already but what I did was to
> assign locations to pairings before the experiment. For half of the pairs
> the original was on the left, and the inv was on the right, for the other
> half I did the reverse. I entered the locations in the excel file that I
> feed to the PsychoPy. Since PsychoPy was selecting trials in a random order
> without replacement, the participants did not see one type of stimulus in
> the same location for all the trials.
>
> Again, I know that this is not exactly what you intended to do, but this is
> the closest that I could come up with in a short time. If you could find a
> better solution I would love to hear that too! I couldn't find a way to do
> this in PsychoPy's google groups as well.
>
> It would look like this if you had four pairs in the method that I just
> mentioned.
>
> oriimage invimage locationori locationinv
> image1.jpg image1_inv.jpg [-0.5,0] [0.5,0]
> image2.jpg image2_inv.jpg [-0.5,0] [0.5,0]
> image3.jpg image3_inv.jpg [0.5,0] [-0.5,0]
> image4.jpg image4_inv.jpg [0.5,0] [-0.5,0]
>
>
> Best
>
> Erdem Ozan Meral
> Bo?azi?i University
> Department of Psychology
> Research & Teaching Assistant
> *www.psychology.boun.edu.tr <http://www.psychology.boun.edu.tr/>*
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> > From: Nicholas Michalak <nickmm at umich.edu>
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> > Hi all
> >
> > I've successfully programmed an RCP in Medialab, but I'm trying to
> > translate to PsychoPy in Python.
> >
> > Before I ask my question, is there a rcicr thread on programming an RCP
> > experiment in PsychoPy?
> >
> > If not, I'm having trouble presenting the stimuli pairs (i.e., ori and
> > inv) in such a way that participants see each pair in random order
> (without
> > replacement), where the images in a pair are randomly presented on the
> left
> > or the right of the screen.
> >
> > So if I have 400 pairs and two sides of the screen, I'd want PsychoPy to
> > draw from the pairs randomly without replacement and draw within the
> pairs
> > randomly without replacement: present a random stimuli from a random pair
> > on the left and place the remaining stimuli from that pair on the right.
> >
> > I welcome any solutions--thank you!
> >
> > Nick
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> From: "Dotsch, R. (Ron)" <R.Dotsch at uu.nl>
> To: Erdem Ozan Meral <erdemozanmeral at gmail.com>,
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> Subject: Re: [Rcicr-users] Programming RCP in PsychoPy (Nicholas
> Michalak)
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> Hi all,
>
> I uploaded an example PsychoPy script that will do this for you (including
> stimulus generation and analysis R scripts) at
> http://files.dotsch.org/RcicrPsychopyExample.zip. Stimuli are not
> presented randomly, but the position of the original and inverted stimuli
> are randomized every trial. It should not be too difficult to also adapt it
> to present the stimuli pairs in random order.
>
> The script uses the mouse as input device, and the unselected image fades
> into the background, which is also pretty cool.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Ron
>
> Ron Dotsch, PhD | Associate Professor | Utrecht University | Department of
> Psychology | Office: Langeveld H1.11, Heidelberglaan 1 | Phone: +31 30
> 253 4198 | Website: http://ron.dotsch.org/
>
> From: <rcicr-users-bounces at lists.r-forge.r-project.org> on behalf of
> Erdem Ozan Meral <erdemozanmeral at gmail.com>
> Date: Friday 27 May 2016 at 15:12
> To: "rcicr-users at lists.r-forge.r-project.org" <
> rcicr-users at lists.r-forge.r-project.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rcicr-users] Programming RCP in PsychoPy (Nicholas Michalak)
>
> Hi Nicholas Michalak,
>
> I had the same problem when I was trying to create the experiment in
> PsychoPy. I couldn't actually completely figure out how to do this, but I
> tried something different. I know that this is not what you are intending
> to do, and you probably thought of this already but what I did was to
> assign locations to pairings before the experiment. For half of the pairs
> the original was on the left, and the inv was on the right, for the other
> half I did the reverse. I entered the locations in the excel file that I
> feed to the PsychoPy. Since PsychoPy was selecting trials in a random order
> without replacement, the participants did not see one type of stimulus in
> the same location for all the trials.
>
> Again, I know that this is not exactly what you intended to do, but this
> is the closest that I could come up with in a short time. If you could find
> a better solution I would love to hear that too! I couldn't find a way to
> do this in PsychoPy's google groups as well.
>
> It would look like this if you had four pairs in the method that I just
> mentioned.
>
> oriimage
>
> invimage
>
> locationori
>
> locationinv
>
> image1.jpg
>
> image1_inv.jpg
>
> [-0.5,0]
>
> [0.5,0]
>
> image2.jpg
>
> image2_inv.jpg
>
> [-0.5,0]
>
> [0.5,0]
>
> image3.jpg
>
> image3_inv.jpg
>
> [0.5,0]
>
> [-0.5,0]
>
> image4.jpg
>
> image4_inv.jpg
>
> [0.5,0]
>
> [-0.5,0]
>
>
>
> Best
>
> Erdem Ozan Meral
> Bo?azi?i University
> Department of Psychology
> Research & Teaching Assistant
> www.psychology.boun.edu.tr<http://www.psychology.boun.edu.tr/>
>
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> Hi all
>
> I've successfully programmed an RCP in Medialab, but I'm trying to
> translate to PsychoPy in Python.
>
> Before I ask my question, is there a rcicr thread on programming an RCP
> experiment in PsychoPy?
>
> If not, I'm having trouble presenting the stimuli pairs (i.e., ori and
> inv) in such a way that participants see each pair in random order (without
> replacement), where the images in a pair are randomly presented on the left
> or the right of the screen.
>
> So if I have 400 pairs and two sides of the screen, I'd want PsychoPy to
> draw from the pairs randomly without replacement and draw within the pairs
> randomly without replacement: present a random stimuli from a random pair
> on the left and place the remaining stimuli from that pair on the right.
>
> I welcome any solutions--thank you!
>
> Nick
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