[GenABEL-dev] layout of GenABEL main page
L.C. Karssen
lennart at karssen.org
Fri May 3 13:30:23 CEST 2013
Hi all,
Looking at the logo wheel Nicola linked to it seems that the blue logos
are mostly IT (and the other way around: non-blue logos are mostly
non-IT. Would that be a coincidence?
Lennart.
On 03/05/13 12:02, Nicola Pirastu wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
>
> Il giorno 02/mag/2013, alle ore 21:42, Yurii Aulchenko
> <yurii.aulchenko at gmail.com <mailto:yurii.aulchenko at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
>
>> Good idea - we should have this in our 'pile of desires' for the
>> designer.
>>
>> To keep things in the same thread: one more suggestion from one of
>> the friends is "probably [you] might want to change the blue color to
>> something lighter, in order to make the G stand out a little bit more
>> clearly"
>>
>
> I think that for colors if you go to a professional he could propose
> some "good" combinations.
> For some reason I don't quite get ,I associate GenABEL to blue colors
> but we can always decide to opt to another. Also if I really have to be
> honest I would avoid black.
>
> To give you some inspiration, take a look at this image which summarizes
> famous logos by color. Note that actually some top brands like google
> microsoft and ebay are multiple colors, which could be an option as well
> since we have so many different subprojects.
>
> http://blog.logomyway.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Logo-Wheel.jpg
>
> Nicola
>
>
>
>> YA
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Maarten Kooyman <kooyman at gmail.com
>> <mailto:kooyman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm honoured that you continue with my draft! Statistical
>> Genomics is a nice 2 word summary what Genabel is.
>>
>> Maybe it is a idea to reserve some space in the logo to add the
>> name of a sub-project. It is nice to add your own sub-project
>> under one flag (logo), but can be a cause of making the thing ugly
>> (like painting a name on a national flag).
>>
>>
>> Maarten
>>
>> On 04/29/2013 10:15 PM, Yurii Aulchenko wrote:
>>> Agree.
>>>
>>> We have discussed this a bit during EMGM-2013 with Lennart and
>>> Nicola, and our suggestion (N, L, please correct me if I am
>>> wrong) is to
>>>
>>> 1) Pick up Maarten's variant
>>>
>>> 2) Replace "project" with "Statistical Genomics" as suggested below
>>>
>>> 3) Send this to a professional designer to make it 'nice' (I am
>>> willing to pay it unless it is too expensive)
>>>
>>> And of cause the logo can evolve later on if we get better ideas :)
>>>
>>> Please let us know what you think.
>>>
>>> YA
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:09 PM, L.C. Karssen
>>> <lennart at karssen.org <mailto:lennart at karssen.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Short is better in marketing, so in that sense I agree with
>>> Maarten and
>>> Yurii. But it should cover what we do in/with the project.
>>> What about:
>>>
>>> GenABEL
>>> Statistical Genetics
>>>
>>>
>>> Methodology is too "open", our project is focused on statistical
>>> genetics (in all its aspects, from methodology development to
>>> implementation and user support, but the core is about
>>> analysing genetic
>>> data).
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Lennart.
>>>
>>> On 20/04/13 18:22, Yurii Aulchenko wrote:
>>> > Dear All,
>>> >
>>> > I now tend to agree with Maarten. I have discussed the
>>> logos with a
>>> > couple of people who know more about design, and it seems that
>>> > introducing Greek letters, 0/1 etc may be bad idea - the
>>> logo must be
>>> > simple. So if we want to deliver extra message it should
>>> probably go
>>> > to "subheading". The subheading "project" does not carry
>>> much info, I
>>> > think. I personally like the "statistical toolkit", but I
>>> think it may
>>> > miss the point that the idea of the project is a bit
>>> broader than the
>>> > software.
>>> >
>>> > So, on the top of Maarten's suggestions, what about:
>>> >
>>> > - methodology project
>>> > - open methodology
>>> > - methodological toolbox
>>> > - methodology
>>> > - agile methodology
>>> >
>>> > YA
>>> > ----------------------
>>> > Yurii Aulchenko
>>> > (sent from mobile device)
>>> >
>>> > On 12 Apr 2013, at 09:18, Maarten Kooyman
>>> <kooyman at gmail.com <mailto:kooyman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I think a logo must deliver the message in one go. I think
>>> it misses is goal if you have to play "where is Waldo?" in a
>>> logo: the simpler the better. Adding some greek symbols
>>> somewhere increase the "where is Waldo?"-effect.
>>> >>
>>> >> Maybe it is a idea to replace "project" with "Statistical
>>> toolkit" or "statistics project"(or is this plainly rude?)
>>> >>
>>> >> Maarten
>>> >>
>>> >> On 04/11/2013 11:46 PM, Nicola Pirastu wrote:
>>> >>> I think that the greek letters are a good idea although
>>> in GenABEL would look very much the same, maybe in project?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> N.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Inviato da iPhone
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Il giorno 11/apr/2013, alle ore 23:34, Yurii Aulchenko
>>> <yurii.aulchenko at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:yurii.aulchenko at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> What about replacing some letters with Greek ones - this
>>> may give some
>>> >>>> math flavor?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> YA
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ----------------------
>>> >>>> Yurii Aulchenko
>>> >>>> (sent from mobile device)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On 11 Apr 2013, at 22:14, "L.C. Karssen"
>>> <lennart at karssen.org <mailto:lennart at karssen.org>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Not bad! I really like the way you mixed the G and the DNA.
>>> >>>>> Can't we make a combination with Nicola's creation so
>>> that we get some
>>> >>>>> math in as well? That would nicely integrate two major
>>> components of the
>>> >>>>> project (only programming would be missing).
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Lennart
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On 11/04/13 21:39, Maarten Kooyman wrote:
>>> >>>>>> Dear All,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I made also a small sketch of a logo. It is pretty
>>> raw, colours are
>>> >>>>>> wrong , etcetera, etcetera.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> To quote Nicola:
>>> >>>>>> " If you hate it or think it should go in another
>>> direction, I'm not
>>> >>>>>> touchy so please do tell me. "
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Cheers,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Maarten
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 04/06/2013 01:36 AM, Nicola Pirastu wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I gave a shot at the logo, it's very simple. Let me
>>> know if you like
>>> >>>>>>> the general idea, if you'd like to add something or
>>> change it.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> As colors I've sticked to those of the website but
>>> they can be
>>> >>>>>>> changed. Also the pattern for the formulas have some
>>> white spaces, but
>>> >>>>>>> this is just a quick draft.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> If you hate it or think it should go in another
>>> direction, I'm not
>>> >>>>>>> touchy so please do tell me.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Best.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Nicola
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Dear all,
>>> >>>>>>>> I really like the proposal, I just to add a few
>>> ideas to the discussion.
>>> >>>>>>>> I think that there are some important concepts that
>>> could be used for
>>> >>>>>>>> a logo:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> 1) ABEL which is able in the end could be something
>>> like a hammer or a
>>> >>>>>>>> tool of some sort.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> 2) I think that the great thing about the *ABEL
>>> project is that it is not
>>> >>>>>>>> a single group but it is a network of people and we
>>> could rappresent that
>>> >>>>>>>> also.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> 3) the * in *ABEL could be made by two crossed
>>> Chromosomes or something
>>> >>>>>>>> else or maybe a DNA strand a tool and something else
>>> (Although I do
>>> >>>>>>>> realize that it could remind of the comunist party
>>> this way :) ).
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> 4) I do like animals, but I it should be meanigful
>>> somehow (although
>>> >>>>>>>> Linux
>>> >>>>>>>> does have a penguin for some obscure reason).
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Best
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Nicola
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Maarten,
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> I have also some irritation about the fact that
>>> there is no recognisable
>>> >>>>>>>>>> logo on the page. I looks like a complete default
>>> page to me: which
>>> >>>>>>>>>> gives
>>> >>>>>>>>>> me the impression that there is not any on it.
>>> Does someone has
>>> >>>>>>>>>> graphical
>>> >>>>>>>>>> skills to create a nice logo which we can use on
>>> the site, posters or
>>> >>>>>>>>>> presentations? Having a neat logo, is like wearing
>>> a suite: people
>>> >>>>>>>>>> think
>>> >>>>>>>>>> at
>>> >>>>>>>>>> first sight you are more trustworthy,intelligent
>>> etc ect. ;)
>>> >>>>>>>>> Completely agree and fully support the idea! I even
>>> tried to design
>>> >>>>>>>>> something myself, but it was SO bad :)
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Part of the problem is that obvious meaningful
>>> symbols (like
>>> >>>>>>>>> chromosomes,
>>> >>>>>>>>> sigmas and Gaussians) are boring and used for long
>>> time. Another part is
>>> >>>>>>>>> that we can not just pick say a cute kitty and stop
>>> - there should
>>> >>>>>>>>> be some
>>> >>>>>>>>> meaning to the symbol (or not?).
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Do we have examples of successful, recognizable
>>> logos we like?I like
>>> >>>>>>>>> FreeBSD, GNU's Gnu, also Firefox and Chrome are
>>> very distinguished.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Yurii
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>>> >>>>> L.C. Karssen
>>> >>>>> Utrecht
>>> >>>>> The Netherlands
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> lennart at karssen.org <mailto:lennart at karssen.org>
>>> >>>>> http://blog.karssen.org <http://blog.karssen.org/>
>>> >>>>>
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