[GenABEL-dev] layout of GenABEL main page
Maarten Kooyman
kooyman at gmail.com
Thu May 2 20:48:57 CEST 2013
I'm honoured that you continue with my draft! Statistical Genomics is a
nice 2 word summary what Genabel is.
Maybe it is a idea to reserve some space in the logo to add the name of
a sub-project. It is nice to add your own sub-project under one flag
(logo), but can be a cause of making the thing ugly (like painting a
name on a national flag).
Maarten
On 04/29/2013 10:15 PM, Yurii Aulchenko wrote:
> Agree.
>
> We have discussed this a bit during EMGM-2013 with Lennart and Nicola,
> and our suggestion (N, L, please correct me if I am wrong) is to
>
> 1) Pick up Maarten's variant
>
> 2) Replace "project" with "Statistical Genomics" as suggested below
>
> 3) Send this to a professional designer to make it 'nice' (I am
> willing to pay it unless it is too expensive)
>
> And of cause the logo can evolve later on if we get better ideas :)
>
> Please let us know what you think.
>
> YA
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:09 PM, L.C. Karssen <lennart at karssen.org
> <mailto:lennart at karssen.org>> wrote:
>
> Short is better in marketing, so in that sense I agree with
> Maarten and
> Yurii. But it should cover what we do in/with the project.
> What about:
>
> GenABEL
> Statistical Genetics
>
>
> Methodology is too "open", our project is focused on statistical
> genetics (in all its aspects, from methodology development to
> implementation and user support, but the core is about analysing
> genetic
> data).
>
>
> Best,
>
> Lennart.
>
> On 20/04/13 18:22, Yurii Aulchenko wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I now tend to agree with Maarten. I have discussed the logos with a
> > couple of people who know more about design, and it seems that
> > introducing Greek letters, 0/1 etc may be bad idea - the logo
> must be
> > simple. So if we want to deliver extra message it should probably go
> > to "subheading". The subheading "project" does not carry much
> info, I
> > think. I personally like the "statistical toolkit", but I think
> it may
> > miss the point that the idea of the project is a bit broader
> than the
> > software.
> >
> > So, on the top of Maarten's suggestions, what about:
> >
> > - methodology project
> > - open methodology
> > - methodological toolbox
> > - methodology
> > - agile methodology
> >
> > YA
> > ----------------------
> > Yurii Aulchenko
> > (sent from mobile device)
> >
> > On 12 Apr 2013, at 09:18, Maarten Kooyman <kooyman at gmail.com
> <mailto:kooyman at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> I think a logo must deliver the message in one go. I think it
> misses is goal if you have to play "where is Waldo?" in a logo:
> the simpler the better. Adding some greek symbols somewhere
> increase the "where is Waldo?"-effect.
> >>
> >> Maybe it is a idea to replace "project" with "Statistical
> toolkit" or "statistics project"(or is this plainly rude?)
> >>
> >> Maarten
> >>
> >> On 04/11/2013 11:46 PM, Nicola Pirastu wrote:
> >>> I think that the greek letters are a good idea although in
> GenABEL would look very much the same, maybe in project?
> >>>
> >>> N.
> >>>
> >>> Inviato da iPhone
> >>>
> >>> Il giorno 11/apr/2013, alle ore 23:34, Yurii Aulchenko
> <yurii.aulchenko at gmail.com <mailto:yurii.aulchenko at gmail.com>> ha
> scritto:
> >>>
> >>>> What about replacing some letters with Greek ones - this may
> give some
> >>>> math flavor?
> >>>>
> >>>> YA
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------
> >>>> Yurii Aulchenko
> >>>> (sent from mobile device)
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11 Apr 2013, at 22:14, "L.C. Karssen" <lennart at karssen.org
> <mailto:lennart at karssen.org>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Not bad! I really like the way you mixed the G and the DNA.
> >>>>> Can't we make a combination with Nicola's creation so that
> we get some
> >>>>> math in as well? That would nicely integrate two major
> components of the
> >>>>> project (only programming would be missing).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lennart
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 11/04/13 21:39, Maarten Kooyman wrote:
> >>>>>> Dear All,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I made also a small sketch of a logo. It is pretty raw,
> colours are
> >>>>>> wrong , etcetera, etcetera.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To quote Nicola:
> >>>>>> " If you hate it or think it should go in another
> direction, I'm not
> >>>>>> touchy so please do tell me. "
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Maarten
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 04/06/2013 01:36 AM, Nicola Pirastu wrote:
> >>>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I gave a shot at the logo, it's very simple. Let me know
> if you like
> >>>>>>> the general idea, if you'd like to add something or change it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As colors I've sticked to those of the website but they can be
> >>>>>>> changed. Also the pattern for the formulas have some white
> spaces, but
> >>>>>>> this is just a quick draft.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you hate it or think it should go in another direction,
> I'm not
> >>>>>>> touchy so please do tell me.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nicola
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>>> I really like the proposal, I just to add a few ideas to
> the discussion.
> >>>>>>>> I think that there are some important concepts that could
> be used for
> >>>>>>>> a logo:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1) ABEL which is able in the end could be something like
> a hammer or a
> >>>>>>>> tool of some sort.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2) I think that the great thing about the *ABEL project
> is that it is not
> >>>>>>>> a single group but it is a network of people and we could
> rappresent that
> >>>>>>>> also.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 3) the * in *ABEL could be made by two crossed
> Chromosomes or something
> >>>>>>>> else or maybe a DNA strand a tool and something else
> (Although I do
> >>>>>>>> realize that it could remind of the comunist party this
> way :) ).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 4) I do like animals, but I it should be meanigful
> somehow (although
> >>>>>>>> Linux
> >>>>>>>> does have a penguin for some obscure reason).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Nicola
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dear Maarten,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have also some irritation about the fact that there is
> no recognisable
> >>>>>>>>>> logo on the page. I looks like a complete default page
> to me: which
> >>>>>>>>>> gives
> >>>>>>>>>> me the impression that there is not any on it. Does
> someone has
> >>>>>>>>>> graphical
> >>>>>>>>>> skills to create a nice logo which we can use on the
> site, posters or
> >>>>>>>>>> presentations? Having a neat logo, is like wearing a
> suite: people
> >>>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>> first sight you are more trustworthy,intelligent etc
> ect. ;)
> >>>>>>>>> Completely agree and fully support the idea! I even
> tried to design
> >>>>>>>>> something myself, but it was SO bad :)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Part of the problem is that obvious meaningful symbols (like
> >>>>>>>>> chromosomes,
> >>>>>>>>> sigmas and Gaussians) are boring and used for long time.
> Another part is
> >>>>>>>>> that we can not just pick say a cute kitty and stop -
> there should
> >>>>>>>>> be some
> >>>>>>>>> meaning to the symbol (or not?).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Do we have examples of successful, recognizable logos we
> like?I like
> >>>>>>>>> FreeBSD, GNU's Gnu, also Firefox and Chrome are very
> distinguished.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yurii
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> >>>>> http://blog.karssen.org
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