[GenABEL-dev] why genabel-devel list only? (genabel-devel = SPAM?)

L.C. Karssen l.karssen at erasmusmc.nl
Wed Mar 16 08:58:56 CET 2011


Hi all,

I agree with the message of Diego and Paolo below: I prefer to keep the
mailing list for developer discussions. A mailing list, for example
allows one to reply not only to the latest 'post' but also to previous
ones, making the 'conversation' less linear and more flexible. 

Also, those who feel that the devel list has too much traffic and/or are
too distracted by a (more or less) constant stream of e-mails, can
change their mailing list subscription to the daily digest. 


Regards,

Lennart.

On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 23:50 +0100, Diego Fabregat Traver wrote:
> Hi Yurii,
> 
> in our opinion, the forum is good for all the reasons you mentioned.
> On the other hand, it is not at all as immediate as receiving an email
> in your mailbox. It's a matter of balance. For users'
> questions/answers the forum is clearly superior. And the messages
> stay. Are searchable. For developers, if organized in small groups, a
> mailing list is more effective.
> 
> Best,
> Diego/Paolo
> 
> 
> El 14/03/11, Yurii Aulchenko  <yurii.aulchenko at gmail.com> escribió:
> 
> > Dear All,
> > 
> > I was looking at the number of e-mails at this (genabel-devel) list,
> > and I was quite happy to see that the number of people posting and
> > number of messages is growing (#mails Jan = 18 / #people = 3; Feb = 61
> > / 6; mid March = 60 / 9), which I take as reflection of the fact that
> > the project gets bigger, and more active. A couple of really important
> > issues were solved in the process of discussion on the genabel-devel
> > list.
> > 
> > So far so good, and congratulations to all of us, but 120 mails per
> > month (projection for March) is 4 mails per day! Now, we are all
> > people busy with many projects, and I can tell for myself that I could
> > not stand most really active mailing-lists: while there are a few
> > posts of high interest, there are also too many posts, which I am not
> > interested to read! So, after a while, I would unsubscribe from such
> > "active" mailing list.
> > 
> > I am very afraid this is something, which may happen to genabel-devel
> > list as well. Things like discussion over 'faster polygenic' is of
> > interest to many of us, but not all. The 'web-server' discussion is
> > most interesting to the web-team, but most of others may be willing to
> > have an occasional look and give a suggestion, but are not up to
> > receive, read, and react to 5 posts on this topic per day.
> > 
> > This is something we can change for better. My view is that we do need
> > to have our discussions in open, so anyone can have a look, join in,
> > contribute and help, but we all also need the freedom to choose the
> > discussions to follow-up closely, and the discussions we might be
> > willing to have an occasional look at.
> > 
> > My suggestion is to stream most of the bigger discussions of technical
> > aspects (such as 'web-server') and methodology (such as 'faster
> > polygenic') to a forum -- e.g. we can arrange GenABEL-devel forum,
> > along with GenABEL(-user) forum already in place at forum.genabel.org.
> > Then, anyone will have a freedom to subscribe to particular topic(s),
> > or just follow the whole forum. On the genable-devel list we can
> > announce new topics, and also keep it as a point of contact with
> > users/contributors (bug reports, suggestions, ... -- see
> > http://www.genabel.org/contribute). If we do this I believe we will
> > have targeted information delivery to all contributors, and still will
> > keep the process open.
> > 
> > Please let me know what you think, especially of you feel this is not
> > good way to go.
> > 
> > with best wishes,
> > Yurii
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