[GenABEL-dev] why genabel-devel list only? (genabel-devel = SPAM?)

[Yurii Aulchenko]

Lennart, Diego, Paolo, many thanks for discussion.

Assuming that silence from others means no strong opinion and
agreement with the way it is, I am summarizing the discussion:

Question: should we move from genabel-development mailing list to a forum?

Answer: Rather not

I personally am very fine with this, and the only problem (again, my
personal view) is that our archives at

http://lists.r-forge.r-project.org/pipermail/genabel-devel/

are not easily searchable and browsable. The fact it is all split by
month does not allow to track discussion in easy way; 'View by thread'
option is... well... not quite what I expect it to be! One day I was
navigating someone through the 'faster polygenic' discussion, and it
was not so easy (above + no 'next in thread' link, etc.)

Any ideas if there is an easy way to solve that? Not critical, though...

Yurii

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:58 AM, L.C. Karssen <l.karssen at erasmusmc.nl> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I agree with the message of Diego and Paolo below: I prefer to keep the
> mailing list for developer discussions. A mailing list, for example
> allows one to reply not only to the latest 'post' but also to previous
> ones, making the 'conversation' less linear and more flexible.
>
> Also, those who feel that the devel list has too much traffic and/or are
> too distracted by a (more or less) constant stream of e-mails, can
> change their mailing list subscription to the daily digest.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Lennart.
>
> On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 23:50 +0100, Diego Fabregat Traver wrote:
>> Hi Yurii,
>>
>> in our opinion, the forum is good for all the reasons you mentioned.
>> On the other hand, it is not at all as immediate as receiving an email
>> in your mailbox. It's a matter of balance. For users'
>> questions/answers the forum is clearly superior. And the messages
>> stay. Are searchable. For developers, if organized in small groups, a
>> mailing list is more effective.
>>
>> Best,
>> Diego/Paolo
>>
>>
>> El 14/03/11, Yurii Aulchenko  <yurii.aulchenko at gmail.com> escribió:
>>
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> > I was looking at the number of e-mails at this (genabel-devel) list,
>> > and I was quite happy to see that the number of people posting and
>> > number of messages is growing (#mails Jan = 18 / #people = 3; Feb = 61
>> > / 6; mid March = 60 / 9), which I take as reflection of the fact that
>> > the project gets bigger, and more active. A couple of really important
>> > issues were solved in the process of discussion on the genabel-devel
>> > list.
>> >
>> > So far so good, and congratulations to all of us, but 120 mails per
>> > month (projection for March) is 4 mails per day! Now, we are all
>> > people busy with many projects, and I can tell for myself that I could
>> > not stand most really active mailing-lists: while there are a few
>> > posts of high interest, there are also too many posts, which I am not
>> > interested to read! So, after a while, I would unsubscribe from such
>> > "active" mailing list.
>> >
>> > I am very afraid this is something, which may happen to genabel-devel
>> > list as well. Things like discussion over 'faster polygenic' is of
>> > interest to many of us, but not all. The 'web-server' discussion is
>> > most interesting to the web-team, but most of others may be willing to
>> > have an occasional look and give a suggestion, but are not up to
>> > receive, read, and react to 5 posts on this topic per day.
>> >
>> > This is something we can change for better. My view is that we do need
>> > to have our discussions in open, so anyone can have a look, join in,
>> > contribute and help, but we all also need the freedom to choose the
>> > discussions to follow-up closely, and the discussions we might be
>> > willing to have an occasional look at.
>> >
>> > My suggestion is to stream most of the bigger discussions of technical
>> > aspects (such as 'web-server') and methodology (such as 'faster
>> > polygenic') to a forum -- e.g. we can arrange GenABEL-devel forum,
>> > along with GenABEL(-user) forum already in place at forum.genabel.org.
>> > Then, anyone will have a freedom to subscribe to particular topic(s),
>> > or just follow the whole forum. On the genable-devel list we can
>> > announce new topics, and also keep it as a point of contact with
>> > users/contributors (bug reports, suggestions, ... -- see
>> > http://www.genabel.org/contribute). If we do this I believe we will
>> > have targeted information delivery to all contributors, and still will
>> > keep the process open.
>> >
>> > Please let me know what you think, especially of you feel this is not
>> > good way to go.
>> >
>> > with best wishes,
>> > Yurii
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