<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><br><div dir="ltr">Hi Keith,<div>My answer concerned dropout, for drop-in, it was based on our 'worst case scenario' so it is indeed very high.</div><div>Thanks</div><div>Hinda</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-06-25 17:34 GMT+02:00 Keith Inman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:keith.inman@csueastbay.edu" target="_blank">keith.inman@csueastbay.edu</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The two or three labs (with which I'm familiar) that have derived their own dropin probabilities empirically from data have found it to be much less than .01. <div><br></div><div>Is it possible, Hinda, that your local sources were including things like artifacts (dye blobs, high stutter) in their estimation? That would certainly drive up a P(Di). <br><div><br></div><div>Best......Keith </div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 7:17 AM, hinda haned <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hindantation@gmail.com" target="_blank">hindantation@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Phil,<div>I relied on expert prior belief, I asked reporting officers what they considered as 'moderate dropout' for an NGM profile.</div><div>This default value, while useful, is of course subjective, and an estimate based on available data is preferred.</div><div>Hope this helps,</div><div>Hinda</div><div><br><div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><br>---------- Message transféré ----------<br>From: Phil Danielson <<a href="mailto:phil.danielson@du.edu" target="_blank">phil.danielson@du.edu</a>><br>To: "<a href="mailto:forensim-help@lists.r-forge.r-project.org" target="_blank">forensim-help@lists.r-forge.r-project.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:forensim-help@lists.r-forge.r-project.org" target="_blank">forensim-help@lists.r-forge.r-project.org</a>><br>Cc: <br>Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:23:40 +0000<br>Subject: Drop Out Probability<br>
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