<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Yes, sure. I will finish our things this week and post it as well. Not sure it will work without the a4a pkg though ...<br><br></div>Best<br><br></div>EJ<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Laurie Kell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lauriekell@googlemail.com" target="_blank">lauriekell@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>I have some simple functions, e.g. the powell-wetherall method, calculation of moments, ... <br></div>A class that implements the "Survival Estimation in Non-Equilibrium situations" method. These all work on FLQuant and FLPar objects.<br>

</div>I propose to add these to <a href="https://github.com/ejardim/FLMethLen.git" target="_blank">https://github.com/ejardim/FLMethLen.git</a><br><br></div>I also have methods that get length/age data from SS and Multifan-Cl, these could go there as well.<br>

</div><div>Would this be OK?<br></div><div><br></div>Laurie<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Ernesto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ernesto.jardim@jrc.ec.europa.eu" target="_blank">ernesto.jardim@jrc.ec.europa.eu</a>></span> wrote:<br>

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    <div>Yes, we (Iago and me) were discussing
      that issue. We shouldn't accept sparse data, the methods will have
      to check each bin and deal with the missing observations. If we
      force all lengths to be present we may loose a bit on space but
      the methods wont need to check the length of the bins and workout
      what is going on.<br>
      <br>
      Best<br>
      <br>
      EJ<div><div><br>
      <br>
      On 05/22/2013 04:18 PM, Laurie Kell wrote:<br>
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        <div>It could be due to sparse data and some size classes being
          missing. For example going from a DB to a matrix.<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        Laurie<br>
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        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 4:05 PM,
          Ernesto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ernesto.jardim@jrc.ec.europa.eu" target="_blank">ernesto.jardim@jrc.ec.europa.eu</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>Hi,<br>
                <br>
                That can be done already, the range name we use for age
                is "max" and "min" so we can use it directly for
                lengths.<br>
                <br>
                Not so sure about using different bin's size. Methods
                would need to check each bin size ...<br>
                <br>
                One doubt, when using different bin's size aren't you
                getting close to the age structure ? kind of slicing ?<br>
                <br>
                Best<br>
                <br>
                EJ
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                  <div><br>
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                    On 05/22/2013 03:38 PM, Santiago Cerviño wrote:<br>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">Length based models usually
                            group length classes for different causes.
                            Sometimes you do not have the whole
                            information; sometimes you need to simplify
                            your model; you might need to make big
                            groups for larger fish and small ones for
                            medium size fish, etc. I think len bins
                            should be user defined without constraints.
                            It is also important to have the whole
                            information (lower length and upper length)
                            for each bin somewhere. This information
                            will be needed. </span></font></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">Could work this idea that keeps
                            consistency with FLR age names using only
                            one number? For instance 5, 12, 20, 30 that
                            means 5-12, 12-20, 20-30, 30-??. We would
                            only need that maximum length is defined
                            somewhere to know the size of the last bin
                            (minage, maxage slots used for minlen
                            maxlen).</span></font></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" lang="EN-GB">Santi</span></font></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">De:</span></font></b><font color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext">
                                <a href="mailto:flr-list-bounces@lists.r-forge.r-project.org" target="_blank">flr-list-bounces@lists.r-forge.r-project.org</a>
                                [<a href="mailto:flr-list-bounces@lists.r-forge.r-project.org" target="_blank">mailto:flr-list-bounces@lists.r-forge.r-project.org</a>]
                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">En
                                    nombre de </span></b>Ernesto<br>
                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Enviado
                                    el:</span></b> 22 May 2013 13:55<br>
                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Para:</span></b>
                                <a href="mailto:flr-list@r-forge.wu-wien.ac.at" target="_blank">flr-list@r-forge.wu-wien.ac.at</a><br>
                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Asunto:</span></b>
                                Re: [FLR-list] size</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"></span></font></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New
                              Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">It won't work
                                in several situations and IMO trying to
                                find a solution for all doesn't work. We
                                need to find a solution that works and
                                implement methods for the others. We may
                                try to be consistent with "age" and use
                                [10,11) represented by "10" in the
                                length names.<br>
                                <br>
                                Best<br>
                                <br>
                                EJ<br>
                                <br>
                                On 05/22/2013 02:43 PM, Laurie Kell
                                wrote:</span></font></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">but wont
                                    work with age slicing which is based
                                    on > & <=. </span></font></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New
                                Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Laurie</span></font></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New
                                  Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Wed, May
                                    22, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Ernesto <<a href="mailto:ernesto.jardim@jrc.ec.europa.eu" target="_blank">ernesto.jardim@jrc.ec.europa.eu</a>>

                                    wrote:</span></font></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times
                                      New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi,<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Yes, that is a problem that we
                                        need to sort out. I'm
                                        considering using midpoints. It
                                        has the advantage of being easy
                                        to coerce into numeric. In most
                                        cases that's what one needs for
                                        computations. Using boundaries
                                        will require other(s)
                                        operation(s) to get midpoints.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Best<br>
                                        <br>
                                        EJ </span></font></p>
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                                            <br>
                                            On 05/22/2013 02:23 PM,
                                            Laurie Kell wrote:</span></font></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">There is an issue, boring but may be important
                                                    to agree on now,
                                                    i.e. labeling of
                                                    length bins.</span></font></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">What does a length bin mean, i.e. if the
                                                  "quant" dim represents
                                                  length? and the values
                                                  are 5, 10, ...?</span></font></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">In
                                                the mixdist package
                                                these are the righthand
                                                boundaries i.e. they
                                                represent (0,5] and
                                                (5,10]. But if they are
                                                the lefthand boundaries
                                                then they represent
                                                (5,10] and (10,INF]. Or
                                                they could be midpoints.
                                                One option would be to
                                                explicitly label the
                                                bins with the boundaries
                                                and then have methods
                                                for going backwards and
                                                forwards between
                                                parametric and
                                                non-parametric methods.
                                                Or to have an attribute
                                                that tracks the
                                                properties.</span></font></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Otherwise
                                                I can see a lot of time
                                                being wasted in stock
                                                assessments. well more
                                                than normal.</span></font></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Laurie
                                            </span></font></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On
                                                Wed, May 22, 2013 at
                                                1:07 PM, Ernesto <<a href="mailto:ernesto.jardim@jrc.ec.europa.eu" target="_blank">ernesto.jardim@jrc.ec.europa.eu</a>>

                                                wrote:</span></font></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On 05/22/2013 12:02 PM, Ernesto wrote:</span></font></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On 05/22/2013 11:34 AM, Sarah Kraak wrote:</span></font></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi FLR-guys,<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  As you know I am not
                                                  an active FLR user,
                                                  but last year I showed
                                                  some interest in
                                                  whether you have
                                                  size-based stuff in
                                                  FLR (see attached
                                                  email). In the
                                                  meanwhile Coilin Minto
                                                  and myself have been
                                                  working on something
                                                  (also attached - note
                                                  this is a draft of the
                                                  idea; at the moment we
                                                  are working on the
                                                  code to get the final
                                                  graphs out) which we
                                                  are coding in R but
                                                  which could/should
                                                  eventually been done
                                                  in FLR. Perhaps you
                                                  are interested.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Cheers,<br>
                                                  Sarah</span></font></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
                                                  Hi,<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Following Laurie's
                                                  suggestion I've
                                                  started a git
                                                  repository for length<br>
                                                  methods in FLRhttps://<a href="http://github.com/ejardim/FLMethLen" target="_blank">github.com/ejardim/FLMethLen</a><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Maybe our first task
                                                  should be o write down
                                                  what we're doing with
                                                  length<br>
                                                  data. Laurie's working
                                                  on ALKs, so I guess
                                                  you're interested in<br>
                                                  converting length
                                                  frequencies to ages
                                                  for stock assessment
                                                  !? We (a4a)<br>
                                                  are working on OMs and
                                                  how to generate them
                                                  from length based data
                                                  so<br>
                                                  that uncertainty on
                                                  the growth model can
                                                  be included in the
                                                  MSE. Sarah<br>
                                                  and Colin Minto are
                                                  working on
                                                  selectivity. What else
                                                  ?<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Best<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  EJ</span></font></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi,<br>
                                                <br>
                                                I've updated the readme
                                                to reflect the latest
                                                messages. </span></font></p>
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                                                    <br>
                                                    EJ<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    -- <br>
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                                    <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Fisheries Scientist</span></font></pre>
                                    <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">FISHREG – Scientific Support to Fisheries</span></font></pre>
                                    <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">IPSC Maritime Affairs Unit</span></font></pre>
                                    <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">EC Joint Research Center</span></font></pre>
                                    <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">TP 051, Via Enrico Fermi 2749</span></font></pre>
                                    <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I-21027 Ispra (VA), Italy</span></font></pre>
                                    <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Office : <a href="tel:%2B39%200332%20785311" value="+390332785311" target="_blank">+39 0332 785311</a></span></font></pre>


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                        <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">TP 051, Via Enrico Fermi 2749</span></font></pre>
                        <pre><font color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I-21027 Ispra (VA), Italy</span></font></pre>
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Fisheries Scientist
FISHREG – Scientific Support to Fisheries
IPSC Maritime Affairs Unit
EC Joint Research Center
TP 051, Via Enrico Fermi 2749
I-21027 Ispra (VA), Italy
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FISHREG – Scientific Support to Fisheries
IPSC Maritime Affairs Unit
EC Joint Research Center
TP 051, Via Enrico Fermi 2749
I-21027 Ispra (VA), Italy
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