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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">In fact this is consistent with
      sampling practices that measure individuals to the "lowest cm".<br>
      <br>
      Best<br>
      <br>
      EJ<br>
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      On 05/22/2013 02:54 PM, Ernesto wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">It won't work in several situations
        and IMO trying to find a solution for all doesn't work. We need
        to find a solution that works and implement methods for the
        others. We may try to be consistent with "age" and use [10,11)
        represented by "10" in the length names.<br>
        <br>
        Best<br>
        <br>
        EJ<br>
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        On 05/22/2013 02:43 PM, Laurie Kell wrote:<br>
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          <div>but wont work with age slicing which is based on >
            & <=. <br>
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          Laurie<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:41 PM,
            Ernesto <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            wrote:<br>
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                <div>Hi,<br>
                  <br>
                  Yes, that is a problem that we need to sort out. I'm
                  considering using midpoints. It has the advantage of
                  being easy to coerce into numeric. In most cases
                  that's what one needs for computations. Using
                  boundaries will require other(s) operation(s) to get
                  midpoints.<br>
                  <br>
                  Best<br>
                  <br>
                  EJ
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                      On 05/22/2013 02:23 PM, Laurie Kell wrote:<br>
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                            <div>There is an issue, boring but may be
                              important to agree on now, i.e. labeling
                              of length bins.<br>
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                            What does a length bin mean, i.e. if the
                            "quant" dim represents length? and the
                            values are 5, 10, ...?<br>
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                          In the mixdist package these are the righthand
                          boundaries i.e. they represent (0,5] and
                          (5,10]. But if they are the lefthand
                          boundaries then they represent (5,10] and
                          (10,INF]. Or they could be midpoints. One
                          option would be to explicitly label the bins
                          with the boundaries and then have methods for
                          going backwards and forwards between
                          parametric and non-parametric methods. Or to
                          have an attribute that tracks the properties.<br>
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                        <div>Otherwise I can see a lot of time being
                          wasted in stock assessments. well more than
                          normal.<br>
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                        Laurie <br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 22, 2013 at
                          1:07 PM, Ernesto <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                            <div>On 05/22/2013 12:02 PM, Ernesto wrote:<br>
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                                #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On
                                05/22/2013 11:34 AM, Sarah Kraak wrote:<br>
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                                  solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi FLR-guys,<br>
                                  <br>
                                  As you know I am not an active FLR
                                  user, but last year I showed some
                                  interest in whether you have
                                  size-based stuff in FLR (see attached
                                  email). In the meanwhile Coilin Minto
                                  and myself have been working on
                                  something (also attached - note this
                                  is a draft of the idea; at the moment
                                  we are working on the code to get the
                                  final graphs out) which we are coding
                                  in R but which could/should eventually
                                  been done in FLR. Perhaps you are
                                  interested.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Cheers,<br>
                                  Sarah<br>
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                                Hi,<br>
                                <br>
                                Following Laurie's suggestion I've
                                started a git repository for length<br>
                                methods in FLRhttps://<a
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                                  target="_blank">github.com/ejardim/FLMethLen</a><br>
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                                Maybe our first task should be o write
                                down what we're doing with length<br>
                                data. Laurie's working on ALKs, so I
                                guess you're interested in<br>
                                converting length frequencies to ages
                                for stock assessment !? We (a4a)<br>
                                are working on OMs and how to generate
                                them from length based data so<br>
                                that uncertainty on the growth model can
                                be included in the MSE. Sarah<br>
                                and Colin Minto are working on
                                selectivity. What else ?<br>
                                <br>
                                Best<br>
                                <br>
                                EJ<br>
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                            Hi,<br>
                            <br>
                            I've updated the readme to reflect the
                            latest messages.
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                                EJ<br>
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