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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">It won't work in several situations and
      IMO trying to find a solution for all doesn't work. We need to
      find a solution that works and implement methods for the others.
      We may try to be consistent with "age" and use [10,11) represented
      by "10" in the length names.<br>
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      Best<br>
      <br>
      EJ<br>
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      On 05/22/2013 02:43 PM, Laurie Kell wrote:<br>
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        <div>but wont work with age slicing which is based on > &
          <=. <br>
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        Laurie<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:41 PM,
          Ernesto <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <div>Hi,<br>
                <br>
                Yes, that is a problem that we need to sort out. I'm
                considering using midpoints. It has the advantage of
                being easy to coerce into numeric. In most cases that's
                what one needs for computations. Using boundaries will
                require other(s) operation(s) to get midpoints.<br>
                <br>
                Best<br>
                <br>
                EJ
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                    On 05/22/2013 02:23 PM, Laurie Kell wrote:<br>
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                          <div>There is an issue, boring but may be
                            important to agree on now, i.e. labeling of
                            length bins.<br>
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                          What does a length bin mean, i.e. if the
                          "quant" dim represents length? and the values
                          are 5, 10, ...?<br>
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                        In the mixdist package these are the righthand
                        boundaries i.e. they represent (0,5] and (5,10].
                        But if they are the lefthand boundaries then
                        they represent (5,10] and (10,INF]. Or they
                        could be midpoints. One option would be to
                        explicitly label the bins with the boundaries
                        and then have methods for going backwards and
                        forwards between parametric and non-parametric
                        methods. Or to have an attribute that tracks the
                        properties.<br>
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                      <div>Otherwise I can see a lot of time being
                        wasted in stock assessments. well more than
                        normal.<br>
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                      Laurie <br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 22, 2013 at
                        1:07 PM, Ernesto <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                          <div>On 05/22/2013 12:02 PM, Ernesto wrote:<br>
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                              #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On
                              05/22/2013 11:34 AM, Sarah Kraak wrote:<br>
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                                FLR-guys,<br>
                                <br>
                                As you know I am not an active FLR user,
                                but last year I showed some interest in
                                whether you have size-based stuff in FLR
                                (see attached email). In the meanwhile
                                Coilin Minto and myself have been
                                working on something (also attached -
                                note this is a draft of the idea; at the
                                moment we are working on the code to get
                                the final graphs out) which we are
                                coding in R but which could/should
                                eventually been done in FLR. Perhaps you
                                are interested.<br>
                                <br>
                                Cheers,<br>
                                Sarah<br>
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                              Hi,<br>
                              <br>
                              Following Laurie's suggestion I've started
                              a git repository for length<br>
                              methods in FLRhttps://<a
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                              Maybe our first task should be o write
                              down what we're doing with length<br>
                              data. Laurie's working on ALKs, so I guess
                              you're interested in<br>
                              converting length frequencies to ages for
                              stock assessment !? We (a4a)<br>
                              are working on OMs and how to generate
                              them from length based data so<br>
                              that uncertainty on the growth model can
                              be included in the MSE. Sarah<br>
                              and Colin Minto are working on
                              selectivity. What else ?<br>
                              <br>
                              Best<br>
                              <br>
                              EJ<br>
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                          Hi,<br>
                          <br>
                          I've updated the readme to reflect the latest
                          messages.
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                              EJ<br>
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