<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Juancentro,</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Matt started a post on this topic in March this year here: <a href="http://lists.r-forge.r-project.org/pipermail/datatable-help/2014-March/002430.html">http://lists.r-forge.r-project.org/pipermail/datatable-help/2014-March/002430.html</a> Have you read it or contributed there? If not, when and where did you complain? </div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Matt also checked all dependent packages on data.table (on CRAN, I believe, bioconductor - not sure) and contacted those authors whose unit tests failed on this issue, IIRC. Are you developing a package that's dependent on data.table? If so, is it already on CRAN or bioconductor? If not, how do you expect us to reach you other than through the mailing list?</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">And 1.9.3 is a development version, where these things are meant to be ironed out before pushing a *stable* release to CRAN. And IIUC, by the time it'll be pushed to CRAN, there should a provision to use older feature or somehow another fix so that the older feature can be properly deprecated. As I said before, this is *still* in development, and we've not gotten to it yet.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">I think rather that you should be following the mailing list closely (and NEWS) and contribute to the conversations when decisions are being made.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div> <div id="bloop_sign_1402006048576976128" class="bloop_sign"><div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px">Arun</div></div> <div style="color:black"><br>From: <span style="color:black">juancentro</span> <a href="mailto:jmtruppia@gmail.com">jmtruppia@gmail.com</a><br>Reply: <span style="color:black">juancentro</span> <a href="mailto:jmtruppia@gmail.com">jmtruppia@gmail.com</a><br>Date: <span style="color:black">June 6, 2014 at 12:02:28 AM</span><br>To: <span style="color:black">datatable-help@lists.r-forge.r-project.org</span> <a href="mailto:datatable-help@lists.r-forge.r-project.org">datatable-help@lists.r-forge.r-project.org</a><br>Subject: <span style="color:black"> Re: [datatable-help] changing data.table by-without-by syntax to require a "by" <br></span></div><br> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>Hi, what's the current status on this one? In the last 1.9.3 by=EACHI is
<br>used. This is disruptive for current users (it has broken several pieces of
<br>my code) but, after complaining and barking, I realized that it is really
<br>more intuitive and reasonable to do a by just when a by is explicit.
<br>Are there any plans to release 1.9.3 and which syntax will be kept? I want
<br>to be prepared
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<br>thanks!
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