<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Could you please send the suite of calls you made please? </div><div><br></div><div>In any case, I will not put a so high criteria give your results. A quality threshold for 0.4 or 0.5 will be sufficient to get rid off of the crappy models.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>Le 20 déc. 2011 à 15:19, Frederico Mestre a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Hello:</font><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">I'm not quite sure how to select the criteria, but if it is the same as the
<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">bin.method, then I'm using TSS.</span></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">I've checked these tables "Evaluation.results.TSS" (bellow) and, the cross validation value is rarely above 0.7. </font></div>
<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">But even those few models that have a cross validation >0.7 should be part of an esemble with <a href="http://qual.th/">qual.th</a>=0.7, right?</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Anyway, </font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I feel I'm missing something.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</span></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks,</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Frederico</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">mc_PA2_rep4</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><div> Cross.validation indepdt.data total.score Cutoff Sensitivity Specificity</div><div>
ANN 0.569 none 0.6196809 186.03 81.11702 80.85106</div><div>CTA 0.619 none 0.7723404 301.94 89.09574 88.13830</div><div>GAM 0.588 none 0.5957447 504.35 88.82979 70.74468</div>
<div>GBM 0.704 none 0.7781915 520.84 91.48936 86.32979</div><div>GLM 0.529 none 0.5074468 462.95 86.70213 64.04255</div><div>MARS 0.501 none 0.5664894 112.13 85.10638 71.54255</div>
<div>FDA 0.603 none 0.5978723 131.59 83.77660 76.01064</div><div>RF 0.702 none 0.8781915 244.25 92.55319 95.26596</div><div>SRE 0.190 none 0.2617021 10.00 62.23404 63.93617</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2011/12/20 Wilfried Thuiller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wilfried.thuiller@ujf-grenoble.fr">wilfried.thuiller@ujf-grenoble.fr</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Hi there,</div><div><br></div><div>Have you checked the evaluation tables? Which criteria do you use for the quality threshold? </div>
<div><br></div><div>Best</div><div>Wilfried</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>Le 20 déc. 2011 à 14:58, Frederico Mestre a écrit :</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello all:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I’m running
some ensembles and projecting them in a GIS. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">First, I
tried to run an ensemble using all the models (not setting any value to “<a href="http://qual.th/" target="_blank">qual.th</a>”).
And then I visualize the results in a GIS. The result maps looked pretty good
(apparently the models correctly classified areas where the species occurs as
those where it is more probable, and it might have predicted the locations of
some new populations).</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">These results, apparently, are good. But, when I run another ensemble
trying to use only the best models (setting the <a href="http://qual.th/" target="_blank">qual.th</a>=0.8, or even 0.7), I
get the error:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Error in if
(sum(ProbData) != 0) { : </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">missing
value where TRUE/FALSE needed</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">What does
this mean? None of the models has a value higher than 0.8 (or 0.7)? How is it
possible if the models apparently are good in classifying the areas where the
species occurs?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">What am I missing?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Frederico</span></p></div></div>
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